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	<title>Comments on: Product Review: Kinesis Advantage ergonomic keyboard</title>
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		<title>By: spookiewon</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-5031</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use the 3M Ergonomic Mouse, and have for years--as long as I&#039;ve used the Kinetic Advantage keyboard.  Calling it a mouse is almost silly--it looks more like a joystick, though it moves around the desk like a mouse.  My employer bought it and the keyboard on the recommendation of my primary care doctor when I was having some severe elbow pain which was thought to be RSI.  It&#039;s funny, we all think of RSI from keyboard use as wrist related, but it&#039;s just as common for the pain to be in the elbow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the 3M Ergonomic Mouse, and have for years&#8211;as long as I&#8217;ve used the Kinetic Advantage keyboard.  Calling it a mouse is almost silly&#8211;it looks more like a joystick, though it moves around the desk like a mouse.  My employer bought it and the keyboard on the recommendation of my primary care doctor when I was having some severe elbow pain which was thought to be RSI.  It&#8217;s funny, we all think of RSI from keyboard use as wrist related, but it&#8217;s just as common for the pain to be in the elbow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Seliger</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-4898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake Seliger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My only problem is that very occasionally I get a ghost &quot;a&quot; when typing fast. It&#039;s rare enough that I ignore the problem but frequent enough that I&#039;ve noticed it and ascertained that it&#039;s not me hitting &quot;a&quot; by accident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My only problem is that very occasionally I get a ghost &#8220;a&#8221; when typing fast. It&#8217;s rare enough that I ignore the problem but frequent enough that I&#8217;ve noticed it and ascertained that it&#8217;s not me hitting &#8220;a&#8221; by accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Mid December Links: Marriage plots and incest, Seattle&#8217;s tunnels, coffee and economic development, and Amazon.com and independent book stores &#171; The Story&#039;s Story</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mid December Links: Marriage plots and incest, Seattle&#8217;s tunnels, coffee and economic development, and Amazon.com and independent book stores &#171; The Story&#039;s Story]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I&#8217;m not convinced work &#8220;done with a keyboard&#8221; isn&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;refreshingly real,&#8221; mostly because I tend to use badass keyboards that are tactiley satisfying. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m not convinced work &#8220;done with a keyboard&#8221; isn&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;refreshingly real,&#8221; mostly because I tend to use badass keyboards that are tactiley satisfying. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Small Business Focus: Our Workstation and Computer Setups</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-4859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Small Business Focus: Our Workstation and Computer Setups]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Kinesis keyboard I use is ludicrously expensive and takes about ten days to really acclimate. At that point, it&#8217;d hard to imagine going back to a standard keyboard. It&#8217;s not merely more comfortable; it&#8217;s so much more comfortable that I don&#8217;t get the hand aches I used to. I began using mine as a review unit. The &#8220;review&#8221; has lasted two years and will probably last forever. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Kinesis keyboard I use is ludicrously expensive and takes about ten days to really acclimate. At that point, it&#8217;d hard to imagine going back to a standard keyboard. It&#8217;s not merely more comfortable; it&#8217;s so much more comfortable that I don&#8217;t get the hand aches I used to. I began using mine as a review unit. The &#8220;review&#8221; has lasted two years and will probably last forever. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Cabana</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-4858</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Cabana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 21:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are a serious emacs user, this keyboard is superb.  I mapped the ctrl key to be under my left thumb, and made the alt (meta) key sticky.  No more difficult stretches.

I have two Kinesis keyboards, one at home and one at work. One I have had for over a decade and I have never had a problem with it. I agree that  better function keys would be nice, but the Kinesis as currently built is an indispensible piece of equipment, IMO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are a serious emacs user, this keyboard is superb.  I mapped the ctrl key to be under my left thumb, and made the alt (meta) key sticky.  No more difficult stretches.</p>
<p>I have two Kinesis keyboards, one at home and one at work. One I have had for over a decade and I have never had a problem with it. I agree that  better function keys would be nice, but the Kinesis as currently built is an indispensible piece of equipment, IMO</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Seliger</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-3745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake Seliger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the heads up. All those mice are pretty expensive, but I might check out the Contour Mouse. It doesn&#039;t seem like they&#039;re called &quot;Perfit&quot; anymore, at least &lt;a href=&quot;http://ergo.contourdesign.com/products/product-detail.aspx?id=36&quot;.according to their website&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up. All those mice are pretty expensive, but I might check out the Contour Mouse. It doesn&#8217;t seem like they&#8217;re called &#8220;Perfit&#8221; anymore, at least &lt;a href=&quot;<a href="http://ergo.contourdesign.com/products/product-detail.aspx?id=36&quot;.according" rel="nofollow">http://ergo.contourdesign.com/products/product-detail.aspx?id=36&quot;.according</a> to their website.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-3744</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 21:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know where you&#039;re coming from on the Evoluent vertical mouse.  Some ergonomic folks absolutely rant against it, going so far as to say it &lt;em&gt;causes&lt;/em&gt; RSI.  As I said in my &lt;a href=&quot;http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/evoluent-vertical-mouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evoluent mouse review&lt;/a&gt;, I think there&#039;s one point on which everyone - even the most confirmed Evoluent critics - would agree: The Evoluent vertical mouse is a vast improvement on the piece of junk that comes with most computers.  A standard mouse seems almost &lt;em&gt;designed&lt;/em&gt; to cause problems!

Have you tried the &lt;a href=&quot;http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/handshoe-mouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Handshoe Mouse&lt;/a&gt;?  I was quite impressed with it during the review period, though it wasn&#039;t precise enough to lure me away from my &lt;a href=&quot;http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/contour-design-perfit-mouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Contour Design Perfit mouse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where you&#8217;re coming from on the Evoluent vertical mouse.  Some ergonomic folks absolutely rant against it, going so far as to say it <em>causes</em> RSI.  As I said in my <a href="http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/evoluent-vertical-mouse/" rel="nofollow">Evoluent mouse review</a>, I think there&#8217;s one point on which everyone &#8211; even the most confirmed Evoluent critics &#8211; would agree: The Evoluent vertical mouse is a vast improvement on the piece of junk that comes with most computers.  A standard mouse seems almost <em>designed</em> to cause problems!</p>
<p>Have you tried the <a href="http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/handshoe-mouse/" rel="nofollow">Handshoe Mouse</a>?  I was quite impressed with it during the review period, though it wasn&#8217;t precise enough to lure me away from my <a href="http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/contour-design-perfit-mouse/" rel="nofollow">Contour Design Perfit mouse.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake Seliger</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-3743</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jake Seliger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t. I&#039;m using an &lt;a href=&quot;http://jseliger.com/2009/10/25/product-review-evoluent/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evoluent vertical mouse&lt;/a&gt;, which I like less and less as time goes on. The top of it makes me &quot;pinch&quot; in such a way that I don&#039;t think is a great improvement over a regular mouse. Haven&#039;t tried the Kinesis version, and for $100 I don&#039;t think I&#039;m likely to. I&#039;ve seen people with track ball mice and that sort of thing, which might also be appealing. 

I use the keyboard far more than the mouse, so I think the keyboard is the low-hanging fruit, so to speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t. I&#8217;m using an <a href="http://jseliger.com/2009/10/25/product-review-evoluent/" rel="nofollow">Evoluent vertical mouse</a>, which I like less and less as time goes on. The top of it makes me &#8220;pinch&#8221; in such a way that I don&#8217;t think is a great improvement over a regular mouse. Haven&#8217;t tried the Kinesis version, and for $100 I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m likely to. I&#8217;ve seen people with track ball mice and that sort of thing, which might also be appealing. </p>
<p>I use the keyboard far more than the mouse, so I think the keyboard is the low-hanging fruit, so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Ergonomic Keyboard and Mouse</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-3742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ergonomic Keyboard and Mouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kinesis really do produce some great Ergonomic Keyboards. I use the freestyle a love it. They also now sell and ergonomic mouse called the DXT Ergonomic Mouse which looks cool. Has anyone used it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinesis really do produce some great Ergonomic Keyboards. I use the freestyle a love it. They also now sell and ergonomic mouse called the DXT Ergonomic Mouse which looks cool. Has anyone used it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://jseliger.com/2009/07/20/kinesis-advantage/#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 03:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To put the Kinesis price tag further into perspective, Maltron&#039;s version of the contoured keyboard costs $600-$800 - more than twice the $300 or so that you&#039;ll pay for a new Kinesis.  Then again, Maltron&#039;s keyboard also has proper full-sized function keys, something programmers who have negotiated the tiny, squishy F-keys of a Kinesis Advantage might really appreciate.

I wrote further about these function keys in my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/kinesis-advantage-contoured-keyboard/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kinesis Advantage review&lt;/a&gt; on my blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put the Kinesis price tag further into perspective, Maltron&#8217;s version of the contoured keyboard costs $600-$800 &#8211; more than twice the $300 or so that you&#8217;ll pay for a new Kinesis.  Then again, Maltron&#8217;s keyboard also has proper full-sized function keys, something programmers who have negotiated the tiny, squishy F-keys of a Kinesis Advantage might really appreciate.</p>
<p>I wrote further about these function keys in my own <a href="http://ergonomicinfo.com/reviews/kinesis-advantage-contoured-keyboard/" rel="nofollow">Kinesis Advantage review</a> on my blog.</p>
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